Why these swing voters give Trump a pass on the economy

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  Hey there, it's the NPR Politics Podcast.

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  I'm Miles Parks.

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  I cover voting.

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  I'm Ashley Lopez.

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  I cover politics.

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  And I'm Mara Liason, senior national political correspondent.

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  And today, one of my favorite pods every single month, we're checking in with swing voters.

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  These are voters who voted for Joe Biden in 2020 and then switched

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  to vote for Donald Trump in 2024 and all year.

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  Thanks to you and Mara, Ashley.

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  Thanks to you both.

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  We've been hearing from them from different battleground states.

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  So, Ashley.

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  This group of voters that we're hearing from today is from North Carolina.

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  What else can you tell us about them?

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  Right.

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  So seven of the voters who participated identified as independents.

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