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Sean, thanks for doing this.
It dawned on me the other day, years after it dawned on you,
that there are no secular leaders of anything
and that people pose as, you know, science-based and non-religious.
But everyone who has power in the world is religious, I have noticed.
They just have different religions.
And you've been on this for a very long time.
So let's just start as big as we can.
What's the purpose of communing with the supernatural for leaders?
Why do leaders do it?
I think there was some, maybe this is a quote or someone said this to me.
There are non-powerful people who are Freemasons, but there are no powerful people who are not Freemasons.