Inside the White House’s Push for More A.I.

The Trump administration wants to accelerate the use of artificial intelligence for scientific discovery. But can its plan succeed without prioritizing universities? Guest host Tyler Cowen speaks with Michael Kratsios, President Trump’s top science and technology adviser, about the White House’s new blueprint for American innovation and what it means for the next generation of scientists. 00:00 Intro00:54 Why American Science Is Broken02:49 The Case for A New Model04:49 Kratsios’s Funding Priorities08:52 Kratsios’s Silicon Valley Background10:53 The Role of Universities16:31 Immigration’s Effect on Scientific Research18:57 Who Controls Grantmaking?25:20 A.I. Regulation and Safety Tools36:03 Testing Models Before Release39:19 Ten-Year Vision and Risks43:21 A New Golden Age for Science45:53 Closing and CreditsNote: As we work on relaunching “Interesting Times,” the show will feature a series of guest hosts in the coming months. (A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.) Thoughts? Email us at interestingtimes@nytimes.com. Please subscribe to our YouTube Channel, Interesting Times.   Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and Amazon Music. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.