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Choiceology, an original podcast from Charles Schwab, is a show about the psychology and economics behind our decisions.
Join host Katie Milkman, an award-winning behavioural scientist and author of the best-selling book How to Change,
as she shares true stories from Nobel laureates, authors, athletes
and everyday people about why we make the choices we do and how to make better ones to help avoid costly mistakes.
Listen to choiceology at schwab.com slash podcast or wherever you listen.
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Are you Laura Koonsberg?
Are you Paddy O'Connell?
It's been weeks since I've been allowed to be in your same room.
It's so nice to see you and I've got a question for you.
Please proceed.
Is your gob smacked?
Yes.
Properly, properly, properly smacked?
£36 million once.
£36 million.
Twice.
That is the size of two donations within two days being given to Reform UK,
which have bust every convention, broken every record.