ReThinking: Breaking leadership barriers with hockey coach Jessica Campbell

重新思考:与冰球教练杰西卡·坎贝尔打破领导力壁垒

WorkLife with Adam Grant

2026-03-17

37 分钟
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Jessica Campbell is a hockey coach with the Seattle Kraken, and the first full-time female assistant coach in NHL history to work behind the bench. In this episode, Jessica and Adam reflect on the lessons from  being the first or only girl on a team, break down Jessica’s three core tenets of leadership, and discuss different ways of delivering effective feedback and tough love to help individuals and teams reach their full potential. Host & Guest Adam Grant (Instagram: @adamgrant | LinkedIn: @adammgrant | Website: https://adamgrant.net/) Jessica Campbell (Instagram: @soupy08 | Website: https://www.jessicaecampbell.com/) For the full text transcript, visit ted.com/podcasts/worklife/worklife-with-adam-grant-transcripts Learn more about our flagship conference happening this April at attend.ted.com/podcast Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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