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It's interesting when I use the phrase, my first husband, my dear first husband, people assume he's dead.
He's not dead.
But if he were, we would speak about him.
In a way that had so much kindness and compassion and regard and respect.
He isn't someone I want to ex off this planet or out of our family.
He is a wonderful influence and support to our children.
And I would never wish that he were gone.
You're listening to Life Kit.
I'm Mariel Segarra.
And that was Karen McNenny, certified divorce coach and certified co-parenting specialist,
talking about why she doesn't call her former husband her ex.
Karen wrote a book called The Good Divorce, How to End Your Marriage Without Ending Your Family.
The best time to talk about divorce is before you need to talk about divorce.
But when you go into a marriage or you're engaged, it's hard to talk about divorce
because your soon-to-be spouse is like, what are you planning to divorce me?
Like you're already thinking about this?