2026-08-20
35 分钟Welcome to Huberman Lab Essentials, where we revisit past episodes for the most potent
and actionable science-based tools for mental health, physical health, and performance.
I'm Andrew Huberman, and I'm a professor of neurobiology and ophthalmology at Stanford School of Medicine.
And now for my discussion with Rick Rubin.
Great to have you here today, Rick.
Thank you for having me.
It's a pleasure.
Of all the topics in science and in particular in neuroscience,
I confess that creativity is the most difficult one to capture.
As I went into your book, the example that you give,
this idea that ideas and creativity are a little bit like a cloud.
If you look at it at one moment.
You might think that it looks like one thing,
but then you look at it a moment later, it could be quite a bit different.
And if you look at an hour later, it very well could be gone.
How did that come to you?
And how does it serve you in trying to, I don't want to say extract, but trying to access creativity?
I think the best way to think about it is like a dream.
It's like, if you think about your dreams, they don't necessarily make sense.
When you wake up, you might remember part, but not the whole thing.