#2467 - Michael Pollan

#2467 - 迈克尔·波伦

The Joe Rogan Experience

2026-03-13

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Michael Pollan is an author and journalist whose books include “The Omnivore’s Dilemma,” “In Defense of Food,” and “How to Change Your Mind." His most recent is “A World Appears: A Journey into Consciousness."www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/646644/a-world-appears-by-michael-pollanwww.michaelpollan.substack.comwww.michaelpollan.com Perplexity: Download the app or ask Perplexity anything at https://pplx.ai/rogan. Get 30% off + 2 free gifts at https://ARMRA.com/rogan This video is sponsored by BetterHelp. Visit https://BetterHelp.com/JRE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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  • Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out.

  • The Joe Rogan Experience.

  • Trained by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.

  • Mr.

  • Cohen, so good to see you again.

  • Hey, good to be back.

  • Consciousness.

  • So this new book, what inspired it?

  • What got you to...

  • I mean, you've kind of explored consciousness a little bit with your...

  • It's an academic book, yeah.

  • How to Change Your Mind.

  • Actually, this book was inspired by the research I did for that book.

  • As you know, I had several research trips.

  • Do you do air quotes when you say research?

  • Yes.

  • And two things happened that were really interesting.

  • One is, there's something about psychedelics that makes you think about consciousness.

  • It's like smudging the windscreen, the windshield.

  • that you normally is perfectly transparent and you see the world through,