Clinical Psychologist on Setting Clear Boundaries ft. Dr. Henry Cloud

临床心理学家谈设定明确界限 —— 亨利·克劳德博士访谈

The Jefferson Fisher Podcast

2026-07-03

55 分钟
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Most people think boundaries are about telling someone else what they can or can't do. They're not. Boundaries are about deciding what you'll do when someone crosses the line—and that changes everything. In this conversation, I'm joined by Dr. Henry Cloud, whose work on boundaries has helped millions of people navigate relationships, leadership, and life. We talk about the difference between hope and wishful thinking, the signs someone is genuinely willing to change, why so many difficult conversations fail before they even begin, and how to know when a relationship deserves another chance—or when it's time for a necessary ending. Check out all of Dr. Cloud’s books here - https://www.drcloud.com/books-index  Leave me a voicemail to be featured on the show! https://www.jeffersonfisher.com/ask-jefferson  Join me on Supercast for ad-free episodes, bonus content, and AMAs: https://jefferson.supercast.com/ Order The Next Conversation Workbook: https://www.jeffersonfisher.com/workbook Thank you to our sponsors: Cozy Earth. Upgrade Your Every Day. Get 20% off at cozyearth.com/jefferson or use code JEFFERSON at check out. Monarch Money. 50% off your first year at https://monarchmoney.com/jefferson David. Subscribe and save 10% on every order’ at https://davidprotein.com/jefferson  BetterHelp. Click https://betterhelp.com/jeffersonfisher for a discount on your first month of therapy. Order my book, The Next Conversation, or listen to the full audiobook today. Like what you hear? Don’t forget to subscribe and leave a 5-star review! Suggest a topic or ask a question for me to answer on the show!  Want a FREE communication tip each week? Click here to join my newsletter.  Join My School of Communication Watch my podcast on YouTube  Follow me on Instagram  Follow me on TikTok Follow me on LinkedIn Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  • When does somebody know that they should say, you know what this needs?

  • This needs a boundary.

  • You're wired with a system that from your spinal cord all the way through your gut, in your neurophysiology,

  • the neurochemistry, all of that system, like a security alarm system, it's running 24-7 asking one question, am I safe?

  • That's what the human organism has got to know all the time.

  • I mean, you've been breathing for the last...

  • Didn't even know.

  • Careless.

  • You can trust it.

  • You don't have to watch your back.

  • But if you smelled a fume, that system would kick in and say, hit pause.

  • So when's it time for a boundary?

  • Your system is going to tell you.

  • Something doesn't feel good here.

  • They're violating your property, either your head, your heart, your mind, or your soul.

  • It's getting a little bit, something doesn't feel right.

  • Now, you may be crazy, just because you're not paranoid.

  • Sometimes we get scared when we shouldn't be.

  • But a lot of times, all the times, we need to stop, pause, you're very good at this, in helping people.

  • You don't have to answer right now.