What the Reflecting Pool tells us about Trump’s presidency

映池所揭示的特朗普总统执政之谜

Americast

2026-08-06

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Why has one of Washington DC’s most famous landmarks become symbolic of the Trump presidency? The renovation and subsequent damage to the Reflecting Pool at the Lincoln Memorial in Washington DC gives an insight into Donald Trump’s second term as president and the team that surrounds him. For months the president has claimed that vandalism was responsible for damage to the monument he wanted restored in time for the country’s 250th birthday celebrations. But at the end of last week, Jeanine Pirro, the federal prosecutor he selected for Washington DC, dropped charges against four people - including US Olympian David Hearn - who were accused of damaging the pool’s lining and blamed “flawed” construction for the damage. Trump accused Pirro of “folding like an umbrella”, but her decision to go against the president’s version of events has raised questions over where Trump is getting his information, and whether his top allies are now less willing to give him the news he wants to hear. Sarah and Anthony discuss the wider significance of the Reflecting Pool story and also what changes can be expected if Todd Blanche, Trump’s former personal attorney, is appointed as head of the Justice Department. HOSTS: • Sarah Smith, North America Editor • Anthony Zurcher, North America Correspondent GET IN TOUCH: • Join our online community: https://discord.gg/qSrxqNcmRB • Send us a message or voice note via WhatsApp to +44 330 123 9480 • Email Americast@bbc.co.uk • Or use #Americast This episode was made by George Dabby with BethanAshmead. The technical producer was Dafydd Evans. The series producer is Purvee Pattni. The senior news editor is Sam Bonham. If you want to be notified every time we publish a new episode, please subscribe to us on BBC Sounds by hitting the subscribe button on the app. You can now listen to Americast on a smart speaker. If you want to listen, just say "Ask BBC Sounds to play Americast”. It works on most smart speakers. US Election Unspun: Sign up for Anthony’s BBC newsletter: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68093155 Americast is part of the BBC News Podcasts family of podcasts. The team that makes Americast also makes lots of other podcasts, including Newscast. If you enjoy Americast (and if you're reading this then you hopefully do), then we think that you will enjoy some of our other pods too. See links below. Newscast: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/series/p05299nl Top Comment: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/m001mssm Radical: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/p0gg4k6r The Global Story: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/w13xtvsd
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  • Donald Trump is very used to getting his own way.

  • He is accustomed to his orders being followed by loyal acolytes.

  • But sometimes it doesn't quite work out.

  • And that's how it's been going in the last few days.

  • Some of his closest allies have had to tell him they can't give the president what he wants.

  • And he is not happy about it.

  • His flawed efforts to renovate the reflecting pool at the Lincoln Memorial in the heart of Washington,

  • D.C. Has taken another bizarre twist as Washington's top prosecutor, Jeanine Pirro,

  • has been forced to drop the case and contradict Donald Trump's version of events.

  • And I think it's fair to say the president is not happy about it.

  • And I was disappointed with Jeanine Pirro, really disappointed with Jeanine Pirro.

  • She folded like an umbrella.

  • And people get away with things.

  • It's a disgrace.

  • This is a rare example of one of Donald Trump's most loyal allies

  • breaking ranks and telling him he can't have what he wants.

  • Why is he making such a fuss about this reflecting pool?

  • Does it show us that he's starting to lose his grip on the Justice Department

  • and can't use it as his personal tool of revenge anymore?