2026-06-30
1 小时 33 分钟Today I'm chatting with Grant Sanderson,
who runs Google One Brown and is now working on a new project documenting the progress AI is making in math.
And I wanted to talk to you about this because AI has been making
the fastest progress in mathematics as of any other field.
So whatever is happening here and whatever we're seeing AI progress happen
or not happen would tell us about what will happen to the rest of the world as AI gets better and better.
So I wanted to start with this question I asked you when I first interviewed you three years ago.
And I asked you, once we have AIs that can get gold in the International Math Olympiad, wouldn't that just be AGI?
Wouldn't this just be able to do anything any human can do, given how hard these problems are?
And you had an answer, which in retrospect turned out to be very wise and correct,
which is like, it'll be another benchmark, like all these other benchmarks that they are passing.
Obviously, AI has gotten better in general ways since then, but there won't be some aha moment when this happens.
First, I think I'd be curious to get your...
Heuristics on why that turned out to be true.
And second, I'm curious how long you think this narrowness can continue to be true.
So by the point that AI has solved the million price problem,
do you think it's still possible that at that point there's
lots of tasks that humans are doing that AI still can't automate in the economy?
It's an interesting question because it's hard to answer without knowing what the solution looks like ahead of time.
I mean, if we take the IMO, that's something where...