Is Cuba Next? A Conversation With Michael J. Bustamante and Ricardo Zuniga

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  I’m Dan Kurtz-Phelan, and this is the Foreign Affairs Interview.

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  For me, the real bottom line is they should just take the military threat off the table.

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  There's no point at this stage doing it.

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  There's not a single military strike that's going to be effective.

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  You know, the United States is not going to occupy Cuba.

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  I don't see a way out of this that doesn't involve the Cuban government coming to the table

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  and seeding on some things that they never wanted to seed on before.

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  Donald Trump has insisted that he will have "the honor of taking Cuba."

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  While the administration has not specified what that might mean,

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  in the wake of interventions in Venezuela and Iran over the past six months,

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  there is reason to take seriously the possibility of some kind of forceful US action,

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  including military action.

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  Already, a combination of US pressure and the Cuban government's own failures

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  has resulted in unrelentingly dire conditions on the island,

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  leading many to expect some kind of break before long.

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  In recent weeks, two of the sharpest observers of Cuba and US policy toward Cuba

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  have written essays in Foreign Affairs on the choices facing policymakers in both Havana and Washington.

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  Michael Bustamante is chair of Cuba and Cuban-American studies at the University of Miami,

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  and Ricardo Zúñiga is a longtime US official who served at the US embassy in Havana

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  and helped lead the secret talks that brought the Obama administration's opening to Cuba.

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