2026-02-12
1 小时 2 分钟From New York Times' opinion, I'm Ross Douthend, and this is Interesting Times.
Are the lords of artificial intelligence on the side of the human race?
My prediction is we'll actually make so many robots in AI that they will actually saturate all human needs.
The physical and the digital world should really be fully blended.
I don't think the world has really had the humanoid robots moment yet.
It's going to feel very sci-fi.
That's the core question that I had for this week's guest.
He's the head of Anthropic, one of the fastest growing AI companies.
He's something of a utopian when it comes to the potential benefits of the technology that he's unleashing on the world.
Can we use our lead in AI to shape liberty around the world?
But he also sees grave dangers ahead and inevitable disruption.
Dario Amade, welcome to Interesting Times.
Thank you for having me, Ross.
Thank you for being here.
So...
You are rather unusually, maybe for a tech CEO, an essayist.
You have written two long, very interesting essays about the promise and the peril of artificial intelligence.
And we're going to talk about the perils in this conversation.
But I thought it would be good to start with the promise.
And with the optimistic vision, indeed, I would say the utopian vision