Most Replayed Moment: A Guilt-Free Way to Handle Work and Life

最具重温时刻:处理工作和生活的不内疚之道

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett

2026-09-25

32 分钟
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What if the right work-life balance looks completely different at every stage of your life? Nicola Kilner is the Co-Founder and CEO of DECIEM, the company behind The Ordinary, one of the world’s most disruptive and successful beauty brands. In this moment, Nicola Kilner reveals what the earliest days of building DECIEM really looked like, why the traditional rules of work-life balance didn’t always apply, and how an intense startup culture helped shape the company it became. She also explains why knowing exactly what you’re not good at can be one of a leader’s greatest strengths and the lesson she learned when the skills that helped build a startup were no longer enough to lead it at scale. Listen to the full episode here! Spotify: https://g2ul0.app.link/qzeuYcCBF6b Apple: https://g2ul0.app.link/uzyOKKoBF6b Watch the Episodes On YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheDiaryOfACEO/videos Nicola Kilner: https://theordinary.com/en-gb/about-us/our-founder.html Wayfair - Visit http://Wayfair.com to start your home refresh
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  • This episode is sponsored by Asana.

  • Let me admit something to you.

  • I'm a little bit messy.

  • I have got ADHD and sometimes I forget things.

  • I'll put something in Google Drive.

  • I'll put something on my desktop.

  • It's all over the shop.

  • And I can't imagine how much that is costing me as an entrepreneur or as a creative.

  • I never thought of this as a project management problem.

  • I just thought of it as a me problem.

  • So let me give you a window into my fiance, Melanie, and how she operates.

  • She's running a business and she doesn't rely on remembering everything.

  • She creates systems that mean she doesn't have to.

  • And one system she's made for her business is that when people attend her retreats automated itineraries

  • and they get packs sent to them automatically after the retreat, all thanks to Asana.

  • So if you're someone who constantly feels like you need to be better,

  • more organised, maybe ask yourself a different question.

  • Is it actually you that needs to change or is it the way that you're working?

  • Asana has always been great at organising work and breaking down projects into tasks.

  • Now you can assign those tasks to AI teammates.