2026-07-29
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Hey there, Stephen Dubner.
This is the third episode of a new video interview show we're making called Better in Person.
Today's guest is the comedian Gary Goleman.
You are going to love him, I guarantee.
If you want the full video experience, go to the Freakonomics YouTube channel.
It looks good on your phone, but it looks great on a bigger screen.
You can also watch it on Apple Podcasts.
Just search for better in person.
But we also made this audio version for the Freakonomics feed in case you don't want to be distracted by the video.
We aim to please.
As always, thanks for listening.
And now, thanks for watching, too.
What you have to understand about show business is the hyperbole is at such a high level that if they love you,
it means they don't want to work with you, but they think you're pretty good.
If they're obsessed with you, they'd like to work with you.
But if this fails, it's all over.
You'll never hear from them again.