2026-09-16
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Hey there, it's Stephen Dubner.
And this is a bonus episode that we are calling How to Be a Double Unicorn.
Comes from our new video talk show, which is called Better in Person.
And the guest is John Urschel, a former NFL lineman who now teaches math at MIT.
John is one of my very favorite people, and I think you will like him too.
To watch this episode, go to the Freakonomics YouTube channel or search for Better in Person on Apple Podcasts.
The entire first season of the show has now been published, so go ahead, binge.
As always, thanks for listening.
So you'd never open a math book on the Ravens facility?
No, never.
Because you're busy doing football?
I'm busy doing football.
This is Better in Person with Stephen Dubner and John Urschel.
A lot of us spend our lives trying to find the one big thing we're really good at.
John Urschel had a slightly different problem.
He turned out to be world class at two things, two very different things, football and math.
One path led to the NFL, the other to MIT.