How to Prevent the Next World War: A Conversation With Thant Myint-U

联合国已沦为摆设?

The Foreign Affairs Interview

2026-05-28

54 分钟
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The world today is more dangerous and more violent than it’s been at any time since 1945. States everywhere have jettisoned commitments to cooperation and opted for aggression. The so-called rules-based order seems to have come apart. Yet the international body founded after World War II with the charge of preventing World War III finds itself increasingly on the margins. In a recent essay in Foreign Affairs, the historian and former UN official Thant Myint-U considered what it would take for the United Nations to regain a meaningful role in preventing and managing global conflict. That question is particularly relevant as the UN begins the process of picking its next secretary-general. Deputy Editor Kanishk Tharoor spoke with Thant about the past and future of the United Nations, and about how the pillars of global peace can be reinforced before they collapse. You can find sources, transcripts, and more episodes of The Foreign Affairs Interview at https://www.foreignaffairs.com/podcasts/foreign-affairs-interview.
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  • I’m Dan Kurtz-Phelan and this is the Foreign Affairs Interview.

  • When we think about the future as well,

  • we should be thinking again less about the UN as an institution

  • and whether or not we’re still committed to those principles

  • on which the UN was founded and emerged in the 40s, 50s, and 60s

  • of a world of peace and a world without empire.

  • The world today is more dangerous and more violent than it's been at any time since 1945.

  • States everywhere have jettisoned commitments to cooperation and opted for aggression,

  • and the so-called rules-based order seems to have come apart.

  • Yet the international body founded after World War II

  • with the charge of preventing World War III

  • finds itself increasingly on the margins.

  • In a recent essay in Foreign Affairs,

  • the historian and former UN official Thant Myint-U

  • considered what it would take for the United Nations

  • to regain a meaningful role in preventing and managing global conflict.

  • That question is particularly relevant as the UN begins the process

  • of picking its next secretary-general.

  • Deputy editor Kanishk Tharoor spoke with Thant

  • about the past and future of the United Nations