#2534 - Annie Jacobsen

#2534 - 安妮·雅各布森

The Joe Rogan Experience

2026-08-01

2 小时 20 分钟
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Annie Jacobsen is a Pulitzer Prize finalist, investigative journalist, and bestselling author. Her latest book, "Biological War: A Scenario," is out now.www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/783250/biological-war-by-annie-jacobsen/www.anniejacobsen.com Perplexity: Download the app or ask Perplexity anything at https://pplx.ai/rogan. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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  • biological war oh boy every time i talk to you i'm fucking terrified

  • That is my part time job to actually scare Joe Rogan.

  • If I can do that.

  • Wow.

  • Yeah.

  • Every time I talk to you, I'm like, oh, no.

  • Last time it was nuclear war.

  • Oh, no.

  • Now it's biological war.

  • Oh, no.

  • Which is actually maybe even grimmer than nuclear, because at least in nuclear, you're just like gone in the flash.

  • I did a show a while back on the SyFy network called Joe Rogan Questions Everything.

  • And one of the episodes we did was about biological war.

  • And so we spoke to this guy who used to work for Russia during the Cold War.

  • And he was talking about how much anthrax they had and how much work they had done on biological weapons.

  • And it was terrifying.

  • He said they had like just giant vats of anthrax, like enough to kill everyone in New York City.

  • Was it Ken Alabak?

  • Do you know?

  • He was Russian.