the joe rogan experience train by day joe rogan podcast by night all day david welcome
to the show pull on up to the microphone to get it get that sucker up like a fist
from your face uh i first heard about you from that guy all right bill the goat The greatest.
Yeah.
I used to love listening to his show coming home from the comedy store.
We'd come home at like 1 o'clock in the morning.
Coast to coast with Art Bell from the kingdom of Nye.
It was awesome.
And that's when I first got turned on to your work.
So tell everybody, you started off in law enforcement.
Right.
That's your background.
Correct.
How did you get involved in this mystery of people going missing?
So I had already written a couple of books.
And I was at Yosemite National Park doing some research on another topic.
And two rangers are following me around.
And I went back to my room that was at the park.
And about an hour and a half later, one of the rangers comes to my room.
And he's in plain clothes.