2026-07-23
40 分钟Welcome to Huberman Lab Essentials, where we revisit past episodes for the most potent
and actionable science-based tools for mental health, physical health, and performance.
I'm Andrew Huberman, and I'm a professor of neurobiology and ophthalmology at Stanford School of Medicine.
And now for my discussion with Dr. Sam Harris.
Dr. Sam Harris.
What is this thing that we call a self?
As far as I know, we have not localized the region
in the brain that can entirely account for our awareness of self.
The problem is we use the term self in so many different ways, right?
And there's one sense of that term, which...
Is the target of meditation, and you'll hear it from me, that this self is an illusion, right?
And that there's a psychological freedom that can be experienced on the other side of discovering it to be an illusion.
And some people don't like that framing.
Some people would insist that it's not so much an illusion, but it's a construct and it's not what it seems.
The thing that doesn't exist, it certainly doesn't exist as it seems,
and I would want to argue that it actually is just a proper illusion, is this...
The sense that there is a subject interior to experience, in addition to experience.
So most people feel like they're having an experience
of the world and they're having an experience of their bodies in the world.
And in addition to that, they feel that they are a subject internal to the body.