Are The Democratic Socialists Winning or Losing?

民主社会主义者在赢还是输?

The Daily

2026-08-13

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This week, Francesca Hong, a democratic socialist running for governor in Wisconsin, suffered an upset after a double-digit lead in the polls. Last week, Dr. Abdul El-Sayed, a progressive, pulled off a stunning victory in Michigan against his well-funded opponent. Nate Cohn, the chief political analyst for The New York Times, makes sense of what happened in Wisconsin and Michigan, and what it might tell us about the future of the Democratic Party. Guest: Nate Cohn, the chief political analyst for The New York Times. Background reading:  Dr. El-Sayed’s triumph against an establishment-backed candidate in Michigan was a big win for the left. Ms. Hong’s defeat in Wisconsin defied expectations and may have shown that the democratic socialist wave cannot reach beyond urban centers. Photo: Nick Hagen for The New York Times For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday.  Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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  • The left wing of the Democratic Party has now faced key tests in two swing states, and the results were mixed.

  • On Tuesday, Democratic Socialist Francesca Hong lost the Democratic nomination for governor

  • in Wisconsin in an upset after leading by double digits in the polls.

  • And last week in Michigan, despite being heavily outspent by his opponent,

  • Abdul El-Sayed won the Democratic nomination for Senate by a slim margin.

  • Today, my colleague, Chief Political Analyst Nate Cohn, helps make sense of those conflicting outcomes

  • and explains what they tell us about the state of the populist left in democratic politics.

  • It's Thursday, August 13th.

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