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Right, so the Prime Minister's doing one of those things where he says a big thing that could happen in the future.
Yes, one of his favourite things, as we were discussing.
Short-term things, little things that mean a lot, lots of big ideas for the future,
difficult second album in the middle, not written yet.
But here we are with another of these big, possible long-term ambitions of the Prime Minister.
Which is talk about return to freedom of movement with the EU.
Yes, which of course is unlimited immigration of British citizens to the European Union.
And vice versa.
And you don't need me to tell you that that was absolutely at the heart of the noisy,
divisive, difficult Brexit referendum campaign, and then the years in Parliament that came after.
So it's a really big moment, I think, for Andy Burnham actually to say this out loud.
It could be a genius move, or it could open the door to more years of division and chaos.