What Makes Great Leaders & How to Live an Extraordinary Life | Dr. Jared Diamond

什么造就杰出领袖与如何活出非凡人生 | 珍·戴蒙德博士

Huberman Lab

2026-10-19

1 小时 53 分钟
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Dr. Jared Diamond, PhD, is a Pulitzer Prize-winning author, physiologist, evolutionary biologist and Professor at UCLA. We discuss the surprising and often chance events that shaped human history and leadership in politics, religion, business and athletics. As one of the most influential public-facing scholars of the last 100 years, Dr. Diamond also shares his advice on how to pursue a career and life that reflects your unique interests and that makes a positive contribution to the world. He also shares the tools he uses to keep his mind and body vigorous. Read the episode show notes at hubermanlab.com. Thank you to our sponsors AG1: https://drinkag1.com/huberman Eight Sleep: https://eightsleep.com/huberman Function: https://functionhealth.com/huberman Rorra: https://rorra.com/huberman Timestamps (00:00:00) Jared Diamond (00:02:51) Leadership, Prophets; Hitler, WWII (00:09:17) Hitler, Leadership, Deception (00:11:45) Unlikely Leader: Harry Truman (00:13:45) Sponsors: Rorra & Eight Sleep (00:16:28) Leaders, Introspection, Charisma; Individuals, History Patterns (00:22:35) Leaders & Addressing Mistakes, Forgiveness (00:25:36) Religious Leaders, Jesus & Leadership, Organizers (00:30:42) Leader Partnerships, Science, Religion (00:35:18) Jim Jones, Effective Cult Leaders; Followers (00:39:53) Sponsor: AG1 (00:41:06) Leaders & Clinging to Power (00:44:29) Learning Languages (00:49:59) Taxonomy, Lists & Names, Studying Birds (00:56:41) Curiosity, New Guinea Birds, Success & Support Across Different Careers (01:04:55) Travel, Intellectual Explorer (01:07:44) Birds, Vision & Sound, Ecology; Bird Song, Monkeys (01:14:50) Sponsor: Function (01:16:27) Academic Leadership; Time & His Remaining Projects (01:25:54) Humanity Risks, Population Bomb (01:30:46) Physical Activity; Sports Leaders (01:38:08) Coaching Philosophy, John Wooden; Business Leaders, Yvon Chouinard (01:44:31) Great Leadership; Advice for Others (01:51:22) Zero-Cost Support, YouTube, Spotify & Apple Follow, Reviews & Feedback, Sponsors, Social Media, Neural Network Newsletter Disclaimer & Disclosures Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  • People regularly look for personal generalizations, personality generalizations about leaders.

  • Perhaps the commonest generalization is that leaders have to be charismatic.

  • Nonsense.

  • Some leaders are charismatic.

  • Stalin...

  • Augusto Pinochet, the dictator of Chile, totally uncharismatic.

  • There are about 37 ways to be an effective leader of which charisma is one.

  • And any question that you or anybody else would ask about how can we generalize about leaders,

  • personnel, there are some generalizations about leaders,

  • but not personality generalizations because there are different ways to be an effective leader.

  • Welcome to the Huberman Lab Podcast, where we discuss science and science-based tools for everyday life.

  • I'm Andrew Huberman, and I'm a professor of neurobiology and ophthalmology at Stanford School of Medicine.

  • My guest today is Dr. Jared Diamond.

  • Dr. Jared Diamond is a professor emeritus at University of California, Los Angeles.

  • He's done research in biology, anthropology,

  • and frankly, in so many areas that there really isn't an appropriate title for him.

  • He's also a renowned author of books such as Guns, Germs, and Steel, for which he was awarded a Pulitzer Prize.

  • He has also been awarded the National Medal of Science and a MacArthur Genius Award.

  • Today, we discuss topics related to Jared's most recent book, which is about leaders and leadership.

  • It is entitled Prophets, Prophets...