I'm Dan Kurtz-Falen, and this is the Foreign Affairs Interview.
Let's say the Iranian population is about 90 million.
And let's say about upwards of 70, maybe even 80 million people detest this regime
and would like to see an Iran with a constitutional order, freedom.
Let's then say that at least 10%, at least 10 million people,
9 to 10 million people are the regime then.
And so again, what's your solution for that?
How do you get them to defect, not just from the regime, but to something?
You can't defect from, you must defect to.
I'm Justin Vogt, Executive Editor of Foreign Affairs.
Dan is away this week.
When America and Israel launched a joint war on Iran two weeks ago, U.S.
President Donald Trump urged Iranians to rise up and rid themselves of their tyrannical rulers.
He seemed buoyed by his success in swiftly removing Venezuelan dictator Nicolas Maduro in January.
But the war in Iran has not progressed as smoothly as Trump might have liked.
The authoritarian regime that runs the Islamic Republic remains firmly in place.
The historian Stephen Kotkin has spent decades thinking about how these regimes function,
how they survive, and how they come to an end.
In The Weakness of the Strongman, an essay in the January-February issue of Foreign Affairs,
Kotkin anatomized authoritarianism, arguing that many of the features that bolster autocrats also present vulnerabilities.