How Strong Are Iran’s Strongmen?

伊朗的强权人物究竟有多强?

The Foreign Affairs Interview

2026-03-19

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When the United States and Israel launched a joint war on Iran two weeks ago, U.S. President Donald Trump urged Iranians to rise up and rid themselves of their tyrannical rulers. He seemed buoyed by his success in swiftly removing Venezuelan dictator Nicolás Maduro in January. But the war in Iran has not progressed as smoothly as Trump might have liked. The authoritarian regime that runs the Islamic Republic remains firmly in place.  The historian Stephen Kotkin, who is the Kleinheinz senior fellow at Stanford University’s Hoover Institution, has spent decades thinking about how these regimes function, how they survive, and how they come to an end. In “The Weakness of the Strongmen,” an essay in the January/February issue of Foreign Affairs, Kotkin anatomized authoritarianism, arguing that many of the features that bolster autocrats also present vulnerabilities.  Kotkin is the preeminent biographer of the Soviet leader Joseph Stalin, a close observer of contemporary Russian and Chinese politics, and a sharp analyst of American foreign policy. He spoke with Executive Editor Justin Vogt on Friday, March 13, and explained what makes authoritarian regimes tick, how their weaknesses can be exploited, and what history tells us about the prospects of success for the American and Israeli effort at regime change in Iran. You can find sources, transcripts, and more episodes of The Foreign Affairs Interview at https://www.foreignaffairs.com/podcasts/foreign-affairs-interview.
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  • I'm Dan Kurtz-Falen, and this is the Foreign Affairs Interview.

  • Let's say the Iranian population is about 90 million.

  • And let's say about upwards of 70, maybe even 80 million people detest this regime

  • and would like to see an Iran with a constitutional order, freedom.

  • Let's then say that at least 10%, at least 10 million people,

  • 9 to 10 million people are the regime then.

  • And so again, what's your solution for that?

  • How do you get them to defect, not just from the regime, but to something?

  • You can't defect from, you must defect to.

  • I'm Justin Vogt, Executive Editor of Foreign Affairs.

  • Dan is away this week.

  • When America and Israel launched a joint war on Iran two weeks ago, U.S.

  • President Donald Trump urged Iranians to rise up and rid themselves of their tyrannical rulers.

  • He seemed buoyed by his success in swiftly removing Venezuelan dictator Nicolas Maduro in January.

  • But the war in Iran has not progressed as smoothly as Trump might have liked.

  • The authoritarian regime that runs the Islamic Republic remains firmly in place.

  • The historian Stephen Kotkin has spent decades thinking about how these regimes function,

  • how they survive, and how they come to an end.

  • In The Weakness of the Strongman, an essay in the January-February issue of Foreign Affairs,

  • Kotkin anatomized authoritarianism, arguing that many of the features that bolster autocrats also present vulnerabilities.