Better in Person Podcast | How Gary Gulman Turned Depression Into Comedy Gold

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  Hey there, I'm Stephen Dubner, the host of Freakonomics Radio.

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  So what am I doing here in the What Now feed?

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  Well, Trevor Noah has very kindly let us share a preview of our new show called Better in Person.

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  It is a video talk show where I invite remarkable people over to my apartment to talk, yes,

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  but also to eat and drink, argue, laugh.

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  If Freakonomics Radio is about how things work, then Better in Person is about how people work.

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  And one of those people is the comedian and all-around remarkable human Gary Gullman.

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  In our time together, Gary got candid with me about his mental health, his comedic workflow,

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  and the power of basketball in helping keep him sane.

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  In the portion of the conversation you were about to hear, we even get out and play together.

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  So I hope you enjoy it.

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  You can watch the full episodes of Better in Person on the Freakonomics YouTube channel or on Apple Podcasts.

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  Thanks so much for checking it out.

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  Any day that it's above 40 degrees Fahrenheit in New York City,

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  Gary Gullman plays basketball outdoors to help maintain his mental health.

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  One day, when it was maybe 43 degrees, I tagged along.

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  He was shooting baskets on a court up in central Harlem.

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  There was no one else around.

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  Nice.

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  All right, I want to ask, do you mind if I ask you questions while you shoot?

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