The Pope v Trump

教皇对特朗普

The Story

2026-04-15

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Over the weekend, Donald Trump posted an image of himself as a Jesus Christ like figure, which was subsequently deleted. It came after the President and the Pope exchanged a war of words over the conflict in Iran. What’s behind this latest spat, and how could it affect Trump’s standing among American’s Christians? This podcast was brought to you thanks to the support of readers of The Times and The Sunday Times. Subscribe today: http://thetimes.com/thestory Guests:  Kaya Burgess, science and religious affairs correspondent, The Times, and Christopher Hale, Democratic operative and author of Letters from Leo substack.Host: Manveen Rana. Producers: Edward Drummond. We want to hear from you - email: thestory@thetimes.com Read more: Trump’s row with Pope Leo could cost him dearly among Catholic voters Clips: Times Radio, Fox News, Vatican News, 9News, BBC, Forbes, USA Today, CBS News.  Photo: Getty Images. This podcast was brought to you thanks to subscribers of The Times and The Sunday Times. To enjoy unlimited digital access to all our journalism subscribe here. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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  • From the Times and the Sunday Times, this is the story.

  • I'm Manveen Rana.

  • In some ways, perhaps it shouldn't have been a surprise.

  • Donald Trump has form having previously posted an image of himself as the Pope,

  • sitting kind of in a throne-like chair, looking like he was giving a blessing in full robes.

  • And yet, when he posted an AI-generated image of himself on social media, it was still a global marmalade dropper.

  • An even more striking, if that's the right word, image.

  • Very clearly depicting himself as Jesus Christ.

  • I mean, it looks like a sort of slightly mad Renaissance-era painting.

  • He's there in the centre with a flowing white robe.

  • He's glowing with light coming from the clouds behind him and various winged creatures coming out of the clouds.

  • He 's holding an orb of light in one hand and with the other hand,

  • also with an orb of light, laying his hand on the forehead of a sick man in a bed.

  • That image has now been taken down amid a torrent of outrage, including from Trump supporters.

  • I'm so grateful that many of us who reached out to the president to have this picture,

  • AI picture taken down, and it was taken down.

  • And so clearly it offends millions of Christians and Catholics all over the world.

  • There can't have been any doubt what the image was designed to depict.

  • I mean, I'm fascinated as to what the prompt must have been.

  • Anything other than please show me looking like Jesus would surprise me.