An interview with Yuval Noah Harari

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2026-08-21

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Yuval Noah Harari is a big-ideas guy. He’s known for penning tomes that tackle broad sweeps of history. (They reach big audiences, too. Sapiens, Mr Harari’s most popular book, has sold 25m copies.) The historian-cum-philosopher has now turned his attention to AI. The technology, he says, is the “biggest psychological and social experiment in human history”. He joins Zanny Minton Beddoes, The Economist’s editor-in-chief, in our London studio to discuss why he believes AIs will come to control civilisation—and what it might mean to be human in that world.
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  • Yuval Noah Harari, welcome to The Insider.

  • Thank you, it's good to be here.

  • I've been so looking forward to this conversation.

  • Not only are you one of the world's most prominent public intellectuals,

  • your books have sold millions of copies.

  • And they've done so, I think, because you have a really remarkable ability

  • to synthesize the broad sweep of history,

  • but also you are willing to make bold predictions about the future,

  • which not every historian is willing to do.

  • And that's where I wanted to focus today, the future.

  • Particularly the future in an AI world.

  • It's something you've been writing about a lot,

  • and you've called AI, and I'm going to quote this,

  • the biggest psychological and social experiment in human history.

  • And I want to explore what this experiment will look like,

  • what will it mean for our societies, our politics, indeed our humanity.

  • And I wanted to start with another conversation I had just a few weeks ago,

  • which I don't know if you saw, but with Elon Musk.

  • I watched that.

  • It was quite a conversation, but in it at the beginning,