Joe Rogan podcast.
The Joe Rogan experience.
Showing by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.
Thank you for being here.
Good to be here.
I'm excited to talk to you.
Did you maybe manifest this conversation somehow?
Maybe.
I've seen a bunch of your talks online.
And first of all, let's start from the beginning.
What is your background?
I thought I'd give you a 45 year.
Arc in about three minutes because then there's a lot of places you can get into it.
So I started out as a musician violin up until about halfway through college and then I realized
to be a musician means you have to be an athlete because you're making your living with your body.
No one told me that up through until I finally decided I don't think I want to make my living
with my body because I've never been very strong and more importantly you also need to have a lot of stamina.
And I didn't have that.
And you weren't interested in gaining it?
I couldn't.