Martin McDonagh Has a Vision for Hope. It's Not for the Faint of Heart.

马丁·麦唐纳对希望有着独特的愿景。这并非适合胆小者。

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2026-10-31

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The writer-director, known for his dark and bleak work, believes in film’s power to change our lives. Thoughts? Email us at theinterview@nytimes.comWatch our show on YouTube: youtube.com/@TheInterviewPodcastFor transcripts and more, visit: nytimes.com/theinterview For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and Amazon Music. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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  • I was brought up having to watch English plays,

  • which is like people drinking cups of tea for two and a half hours, and I always wanted to shoot them.

  • I'm David Marchese, and today I'm interviewing Academy Award-winning filmmaker Martin McDonough.

  • McDonough writes and directs darkly funny, profane.

  • This is just a fucking start.

  • Why don't you put that on your Good Morning Missouri fucking wake-up broadcast?

  • Violent.

  • And stylish movies.

  • Films that seem to want to make you laugh as much as provoke you.

  • Like The Banshees of Inishirin or Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri.

  • And his latest, Wild Horse Nine, about two CIA agents played by Sam Rockwell and John Malkovich.

  • And who the fuck are you?

  • The CIA?

  • We are the CIA, actually.

  • We're totally the CIA.

  • We're not the CIA.

  • His work is full of ideas I wanted to ask him about.

  • How he sees politics, provocation, and his own legacy.

  • Here's my conversation with Martin McDonough.

  • But first, a quick message.