A conversation with Tucker Carlson

对话塔克·卡尔森

Insider

2026-03-20

56 分钟
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Tucker Carlson is one of MAGA’s biggest stars. Millions listen to him every week, and his punditry has influenced Donald Trump’s presidency. Now, though, he’s become MAGA’s most prominent dissident. Mr Carlson has broken with the White House over the war in Iran, claiming that the conflict will prove catastrophic for the president’s movement—and for America. Mr Trump says that his onetime ally has lost his way. Zanny Minton Beddoes, our editor-in-chief, sits down with Mr Carlson near his Florida home to ask about the fallout from the Iran war and whether MAGA can survive it.
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  • Because the gates of hell have been opened.

  • That's the truth.

  • Few people are better at grabbing attention

  • and speaking for a wide swath of America's right than Tucker Carlson.

  • His fans think of him as a truth teller, not afraid to challenge orthodoxy.

  • His detractors fear he is leading the right into conspiratorial fever swamps.

  • Tucker, as he is universally known,

  • morphed from being a contrarian but relatively mainstream conservative early in his career

  • into a leading nationalist and isolationist.

  • From his perch at Fox News, he became an avowed immigration restrictionist.

  • Good evening and welcome to Tucker Carlson.

  • And an early supporter of Donald Trump.

  • A loud critic of America's support for Ukraine,

  • he's expressed sympathy for leaders like Vladimir Putin and Viktor Orban.

  • In 2023, Tucker was fired from Fox News

  • and has since become one of America's most successful independent podcasters.

  • He's also become increasingly critical of Israel.

  • And today he's the loudest voice on the right against the war in Iran.

  • President Trump recently said Tucker had lost his way and was no longer MAGA.

  • And Senator Ted Cruz called him the single most dangerous demagogue in the country.