AI Whistleblower: OpenAI Scandal, AI Cults, Neuralink & Our Last Chance to Stop the Tech Oligarchs

AI吹哨人:OpenAI丑闻、AI邪教、Neuralink以及我们阻止科技寡头的最后机会

The Tucker Carlson Show

2026-09-12

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Nate Soares is a computer scientist who’s worked at Google and the Defense Department. So when he says AI is on the path to killing every person on earth, it’s worth hearing him out. (00:00) Why Is AI Dangerous? (17:43) The Unpredictable Evolution of AI (20:13) The US and China’s Shared Interest in AI (37:20) The Tech Oligarchs More Powerful Than the Government (1:20:51) Can We Survive This? Nate Soares is President of the Machine Intelligence Research Institute (MIRI), where he has led AI safety research for more than a decade following engineering roles at Google and Microsoft. He is the co-author, alongside Eliezer Yudkowsky, of the New York Times bestselling book If Anyone Builds It, Everyone Dies: Why Superhuman AI Would Kill Us All (2025), which argues that the current race to develop super intelligent AI will end catastrophically unless humanity globally coordinates to stop it. Nate has published extensively on AI alignment, including foundational work on decision theory, goal specification, and the incentives that drive advanced AI systems to seek power in ways their creators neither anticipate nor intend. Paid partnerships with: Preborn: Help Provide Ultrasounds Dial #250 and say “BABY” or visit https://preborn.com/TUCKERDefend: Enter code "Tucker" for 20% off your purchase at https://defendcellcam.com American Financing: NMLS 182334, nmlsconsumeraccess.org. APR for rates in the 5s start at 6.327% for well qualified borrowers. Call 800-685-5696 for details about credit costs and terms. Visit http://www.AmericanFinancing.net/Tucker. TCN: Get your copy of ‘Able Danger' only on https://TuckerCarlsonBooks.com/Tucker Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  • Nate, thank you so much for doing this.

  • You've written the world's darkest book.

  • You've devoted your life to warning the world about the potential dangers of AI.

  • So let's just start by hearing your explanation of why AI is dangerous in addition to just being annoying.

  • Yeah, you know, the very basic common sense point is if you race to make machines

  • that are much smarter than any human, to make machines that are more capable at inventing

  • their own technology than humans are, And you race into this without really knowing what you're doing.

  • The most likely outcome is just that the machines

  • get loose and do their own thing and that humanity dies as a side effect, just like humanity has,

  • you know, killed lots of other animal species, not because we hate them, but just as a side effect.

  • And in some sense, a lot of people find it sort of obvious or intuitive

  • that if you just like make these really smart, really powerful machines, why would they care about us?

  • And I think that intuition basically is right.

  • There's a lot of arguments you can have on each side.

  • You can get in the technical details.

  • But my book is basically just getting into those details and saying like, yep, it sort of holds up.

  • If we make smarter machines without knowing what we're doing, it's just going to go poorly.

  • Are we actually going to make machines capable of what you're describing?

  • You know, the companies are trying to.

  • They talk about how they are pursuing superintelligence in the true sense of the word.