These voters say the election won’t change much

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  This year's blue wave wasn't just powered by hardcore Democrats.

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  Independents swung towards Democratic candidates in huge numbers, according to exit polls.

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  Today, our first post-election focus group with swing voters.

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  What do they want to see from a Democratic-controlled Congress?

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  And who will they blame if there are problems?

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  It's the NPR Politics Podcast.

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  I'm Miles Parks.

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  I cover voting.

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  I'm Ashley Lopez.

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  I also cover voting.

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  And I'm Mara Liason, senior national political correspondent.

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  And Ashley, this is a series we've been doing all year, hearing from focus groups of voters

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  who voted for President Biden in 2020, President Trump in 2024. Tell us a little bit more about who these people are.

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  Right.

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  So we heard from 14 voters in North Carolina who are in that group of voters, people

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  who voted for Joe Biden in 2020 and then Trump in 2024. In this group,

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  there were 10 people who identified as independents, three as Republicans and one Democrat.

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