These swing voters shrug at Trump earning billions last year

这些摇摆选民对特朗普去年赚取数十亿美元的事实不屑一顾。

The NPR Politics Podcast

2026-07-17

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NPR reporters observed focus groups of 12 Pennsylvania voters who backed former President Biden in 2020 and President Trump in 2024. We discuss their cynicism about politicians and the Iran war, and what they think about democratic socialism. This episode: voting correspondent Miles Parks, political correspondent Ashley Lopez, and senior national political correspondent Mara Liasson. This podcast was produced by Bria Suggs and edited by Rachel Baye. Our executive producer is Muthoni Muturi. Listen to every episode of the NPR Politics Podcast sponsor-free, unlock access to bonus episodes with more from the NPR Politics team, and support public media when you sign up for The NPR Politics Podcast+ at plus.npr.org/politics. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences. NPR Privacy Policy
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  • President Trump has made a lot of money since getting back into office.

  • Billions of dollars.

  • That has ethics experts running around with their hair on fire.

  • But today, we'll hear from voters, many of whom don't seem to mind.

  • It's the NPR Politics Podcast.

  • I'm Miles Parks.

  • I cover voting.

  • I'm Ashley Lopez.

  • I cover politics.

  • And I'm Mara Liason, senior national political correspondent.

  • And today is our latest installment in our conversations with swing voters.

  • These are voters who voted for Joe Biden in 2020 and Donald Trump in 2024. Obviously, a very important voting bloc.

  • Ashley.

  • This group of voters today that we're hearing from is from Pennsylvania.

  • What else can you tell us?

  • Yeah.