Brexit at 10: What comes next? With Anand Menon

英国脱欧十周年:接下来是什么?与阿南德·门农探讨

The Economics Show

2026-06-12

29 分钟
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Just before the UK voted to leave the EU in June 2016, the Treasury (and others) warned the consequences would be catastrophic. GDP would fall and unemployment would rise, Sterling would dip and government borrowing would climb. The shock of Brexit would plunge the UK into a recession. Ten years later, it’s clear some of those predictions were wide of the mark. But Brexit has made the UK’s economy smaller. As would-be Labour leaders Wes Streeting and Andy Burnham openly discuss the case for rejoining the EU, Soumaya asks Anand Menon, head of the UK in a Changing Europe think-tank, what the UK’s relationship with the EU should look like. They discuss the UK’s surprising areas of economic outperformance, why Labour’s “red lines” are hampering its trade ambitions and what the EU would demand if the UK moved to rejoin. Subscribe to Soumaya's show on Apple, Spotify, Pocket Casts or wherever you listen. Further reading:  Andy Burnham plays down rejoining EU after Wes Streeting advocates Brexit reversal Ten years on, what’s next for Brexit? You asked, we answered Britain re-entering the EU ‘an inevitability’, says Treasury minister Presented by Soumaya Keynes. Produced by Mischa Frankl-Duval. Original music and sound design by Breen Turner. Manuela Saragosa is the executive producer. Flo Phillips is the FT’s head of audio. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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  • A vote to leave would represent an immediate and profound shock to our economy.

  • That shock would push our economy into a recession and lead to an increase in unemployment of around 500,000.

  • GDP would be 3.6% smaller, average real wages would be lower, inflation higher, sterling weaker,

  • house prices would be hit and public borrowing would rise compared with a vote to remain.

  • Sounds bad.

  • That was the assessment of the UK Treasury in May 2016, just weeks before Britain's voted to leave the EU.

  • Now, those dire predictions didn't come to pass.

  • The UK economy didn't dive into a recession,

  • but a decade on, there is no question that Brexit has been bad for the British economy.

  • So bad that the question of whether it might be reversed is no longer a taboo.

  • After years of squabbles, uncertainty and trade barriers, What lessons are there,

  • both for the UK and for the rest of the world, when navigating this era of economic conflict?

  • And what comes next?

  • This is The Economics Show with Simea Keynes.

  • I'm joined here in London by Anand Menon, Professor of European Politics and Foreign Affairs at King's College London,

  • and Director of the Think Tank, UK in a Changing Europe.

  • Anand, welcome.

  • Thanks for having me, Simea.

  • OK, on a scale of 1 to 10, how bad has Brexit been for the UK economy?

  • God, I'm trying to wrap my head around the scale here.