The president versus the pope

总统对教皇

The NPR Politics Podcast

2026-04-15

23 分钟
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President Trump launched new attacks at Pope Leo XIV over the weekend, calling the religious leader “Weak on Crime, Weak on Nuclear Weapons,” in a social media post. We discuss what’s behind the tensions between the president and the religious leader and whether they could affect Trump’s political support. This episode: voting correspondent Miles Parks, religion correspondent Jason DeRose, and White House correspondent Danielle Kurtzleben. This podcast was produced by Casey Morell and Bria Suggs, and edited by Rachel Baye. Our executive producer is Muthoni Muturi. Listen to every episode of the NPR Politics Podcast sponsor-free, unlock access to bonus episodes with more from the NPR Politics team, and support public media when you sign up for The NPR Politics Podcast+ at plus.npr.org/politics. To manage podcast ad preferences, review the links below: See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences. NPR Privacy Policy
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  • Hey there, it's the NPR Politics Podcast.

  • I'm Miles Parks.

  • I cover voting.

  • I'm Danielle Kurtzleben.

  • I cover the White House.

  • And we also have NPR's religion correspondent, Jason DeRose, here with us.

  • Hi, Jason.

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  • Yeah, it's great to have you.

  • And today on the show, President Trump versus the Pope.

  • These two men have not seen eye to eye on many things since Leo XIV was elected last spring,