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Laura,
today we're going to be talking about one of the most amazing women in the news for the last 25 years that I can remember.
That's right.
Giselle Pelleco, a name that will be familiar, I'm sure to every newscaster.
I think it is a name that not just was in the headlines, but became iconic to many people.
She was the French woman who had the courage to tell her own most appalling, harrowing story.
in a courtroom in a quiet part of France over many weeks and many months.
Victoria, our colleague,
is going to tell us about her exclusive UK interview with Giselle Pelicot, her extraordinary story,
and also how she is trying to turn the horror of what happened to her into a testament to actually how shame can be transferred.
It's one of the powerful messages that she has said publicly and she said outside the courtroom that the shame should not belong to her,
it should belong to the perpetrators.
Hello, it's Laura in the studio.
Hello, it's Paddy in the studio.