How to Improve Motivation & Overcome Procrastination | Dr. Masud Husain

如何提升动力与克服拖延症 | 马苏德·胡赛因博士

Huberman Lab

2026-08-24

2 小时 20 分钟
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Dr. Masud Husain is a Professor of Neurology & Cognitive Neuroscience at the University of Oxford and a leading expert on the science of motivation, apathy, and neurological diseases. We discuss how dopamine and specific brain circuits shape motivation, including how the brain weighs the trade-off between effort vs reward when deciding what goals to pursue. Dr. Husain also explains practical tools to increase motivation, reduce distractions, and make it easier to start and maintain goal pursuit. We also discuss dementia, Parkinson’s and Alzheimer’s disease, including new insights into cognitive resilience and factors that help protect against age-related cognitive decline. Show notes: https://go.hubermanlab.com/masud-husain-295 Thank you to our sponsors AG1: https://drinkag1.com/huberman David: https://davidprotein.com/huberman BetterHelp: https://betterhelp.com/huberman Eight Sleep: https://eightsleep.com/huberman Function: https://functionhealth.com/huberman Timestamps (00:00:00) Masud Husain (00:02:24) Apathy, Motivation (00:08:07) Rewards, Apathy & Motivation; Dopamine (00:13:20) Sponsors: David & BetterHelp (00:15:44) Types of Apathy; Goal Prioritization: Effort vs Rewards (00:23:26) Motivation, Apathy, Tool: Activation Energy & Overthinking (00:29:24) Tools to Increase Motivation: Incentives, Subdivide Tasks, Planning (00:35:13) Subjective Effort, Mental Framing; Learning & Motivation (00:42:24) Sponsors: AG1 & Eight Sleep (00:44:54) Perseverance, Failure; Finding Your Passion, Depression vs Apathy (00:50:58) Self-Concept, Ambition; Life Satisfaction (00:58:25) Psychedelics, Anhedonia & Changing Self (01:03:09) Personal & Social Identity, Tools: Curiosity, Purpose & Dementia Risk (01:11:58) Addiction, Dopamine; Social Media & Dopamine "Hits"? (01:18:36) Sponsor: Function (01:20:13) Dopamine, Parkinson's Disease; Other Roles of Dopamine (01:26:59) Life Purpose, Culture; Reflection, Weighing Decisions (01:34:21) Internal & External Attention (01:39:59) Internal Chatter, Distraction; Working Memory, Stimulants, Nicotine (01:48:54) ADHD, Diagnosis; Attention & Motivation (01:54:34) Goal Planning & Perseverance (01:59:44) Alzheimer's Disease, Dementia, Apathy, Tools: Dementia Risk Factors (02:06:55) Neurodegenerative Disease & Emerging Treatments (02:10:59) Can You Train Attention?, Tool: Reduce Distraction (02:15:14) Enrichment, Art (02:17:45) Zero-Cost Support, YouTube, Spotify & Apple Follow, Reviews & Feedback, Sponsors, Protocols Book, Social Media, Neural Network Newsletter Disclaimer & Disclosures Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  • Almost every drug of addiction, whether we go from nicotine to alcohol to heroin to cocaine to amphetamine, almost...

  • Every drug of addiction hijacks that dopamine system we were talking about.

  • We find when that circuitry is not working that you can get profound loss of motivation, apathy.

  • When that circuitry is on overdrive because it's been hijacked by these drugs, you get states of hypermotivation.

  • So, of course, this is going to be overly simplistic to think dopamine

  • levels are the only factor that affect our motivation.

  • But it certainly turns out to be a very important factor

  • in graduating the level of motivation we have to seek particular outcomes.

  • Welcome to the Huberman Lab podcast, where we discuss science and science-based tools for everyday life.

  • I'm Andrew Huberman, and I'm a professor of neurobiology and ophthalmology at Stanford School of Medicine.

  • My guest today is Dr. Masood Hussain, who is a neurologist

  • and neuroscientist at Oxford, making key discoveries about the relationship between motivation and pleasure.

  • Today, we discuss what really determines our level of drive and determination to do everything from getting

  • up to go to school or work to pursuing long, hard challenges that last many years.

  • We start off by talking about the opposite of motivation, which of course is apathy.

  • And as you'll learn, perhaps surprisingly, apathy is separate from one's desire for something.

  • We also discuss something very useful, which is how you can change your own perception of your own effort level.

  • Today's discussion really gets to the heart of motivation and procrastination

  • and how anyone, healthy or otherwise, can leverage that understanding to their benefit.

  • As you'll soon hear, Dr. Masood Hussain is a remarkable scientist, neurologist, and communicator.