2026-09-12
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I'm Shimita Basu.
Today, what Lindsay Clancy's murder case reveals about America.
For weeks, people across the country have been gripped by the trial of Lindsay Clancy,
the Massachusetts mother accused in 2023 of killing her three children, five-year-old Cora, three-year-old Dawson,
and eight-month-old Callan, before allegedly attempting to end her own life.
Clancy's defense team didn't dispute that she killed her children,
but they've argued that she shouldn't spend the rest of her life in prison,
that she should be found not guilty because she was suffering from postpartum psychosis
after being prescribed more than a dozen medications for mental health conditions, including depression and anxiety.
After seven days of deliberation, a jury couldn't come to a unanimous decision, and it ended in a mistrial.
The trial was live streamed and picked apart on social media in a way that's so excruciatingly of this moment,
in part because it touched on so many high stakes systems, postpartum care, criminal justice, mental health.
I think in making sense of the case, it is representative of so many ills in our society.
It is representative of so many systems and structures and habits that...
We need to reform and break, that it's really hard to look at the whole thing at once.