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We've all heard the story that to be truly great at something, anything, you have to suffer for it.
That the people who reach the top only get there because someone pushed them past their limits,
sometimes harshly and sometimes relentlessly.
But recent reports are making us question that old assumption.
So when does high pressure come into harm or cross into harm?
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It 's a question we 've been asking for centuries,
it seems, and for just as long we 've accepted a pretty brutal answer,
that greatness requires suffering, that the people at the very top got there because someone pushed them,
sometimes screamed at them, sometimes broke them down in order to build them back up,
but recent reports are forcing us to look at the assumption differently.
One from the world of elite restaurants, the other from college sports.
And together they raise a pretty uncomfortable question.