TIP852: Hermès and LVMH Stock: Time to Buy Luxury? w/ Daniel Mahncke & Shawn O'Malley

TIP852:爱马仕与路威酩轩股价:是时候买入奢侈品股票了吗?与丹尼尔·马恩克和肖恩·奥马利共同探讨

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2026-10-08

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Daniel Mahncke and Shawn O’Malley revisit the two luxury houses they passed on last time — Hermès (EPA: RMS), the 189-year-old maker of the Birkin bag, and LVMH (EPA: MC), the 75-brand conglomerate behind Louis Vuitton, Dior, Tiffany, and Hennessy. Both stocks now sit near their lows: Hermès is down more than 50% from its February 2025 peak and trades at 32 times earnings for the first time in a decade, while LVMH has fallen to a five-year low after two straight years of declining sales — something that didn’t even happen in 2009. The luxury industry has lost roughly 70 million customers since 2022, the Chinese market that tripled between 2017 and 2021 has been shrinking ever since, and a war in the Gulf emptied the stores on the Champs-Élysées of their best-spending tourists. But some brands are growing. Daniel and Shawn work out why Richemont can grow 20% in the same quarter LVMH grows 3%, why Hermès still earns a 41% margin while LVMH’s fashion and leather division has given back seven points of margin in five years, and why the top 0.1% of luxury clients keep spending while the aspirational buyer walks away. They also cover the Chinese property bust and its five-to-six-year playbook, and how prior luxury downturns in 2009, 2016, and 2020 ended. In the end, Daniel updates both valuation models and decides whether either Hermès or LVMH finally earns a spot in The Intrinsic Value Portfolio. IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN: (00:00:00) Intro (00:02:35) About the state of the luxury market (00:15:58) How Hermès’ business has done since our first pitch (00:20:22) What makes LVMH and Hermès special (00:31:30) How LVMH’s business has done since our first pitch (00:33:23) How China is impacting the luxury market (00:39:12) How long past luxury downturns were (01:02:33) Why Hermès has an even better chance of recovering quickly (01:09:10) Valuation discussion (01:10:43) Intrinsic value of RMS (01:12:26) Intrinsic value of LVMH (01:12:51) Whether LVMH or RMS will be added to The Intrinsic Value Portfolio Disclaimer: Slight discrepancies in the timestamps may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES If you are interested in a Community for investors to learn, share ideas, network, and join calls with experts: Apply for The Intrinsic Value Mastermind. 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  • You're listening to TIP.

  • Welcome back to The Investor's Podcast.

  • Today's episode is 8.52 and Sean and I actually had a one week break, no recordings of the two of us.

  • And I can safely say that doesn't happen too often.

  • So you may have already forgotten, Sean, but the last stock that I pitched to you was Meta.

  • Oh, I remember it well.

  • Don't worry.

  • Well, today I thought I wouldn't just pitch you one stock, but actually two.

  • In fact, we looked at the two companies before.

  • You covered LVMH in July of last year, and I covered MS in February of this year.

  • But since then, both stocks have become arguably even more attractive as they have kept dropping

  • and have now reached historical valuation lows, which for a company like MS still means 30 plus multiple,

  • but still significantly cheaper than we can usually buy them.

  • While we decided not to buy either of them last time for our intrinsic value portfolio, maybe this time it's different.

  • Well, we definitely like the businesses, but we were a bit concerned about the valuations.

  • We would have had to pay for the shares in them.

  • And then there were also some macro concerns that were already starting to show up.

  • And anybody who knows us knows we're not macro investors,

  • but when the consequences of macro economic developments are already being felt at the company level,

  • and then you're still paying a premium, a hefty premium at that for shares in the stock,