Hello, and welcome to Forever 35, a podcast about the things we do to take care of ourselves.
I'm Dori Shafrir.
And I'm Elise Hu, and we're just two friends who like to talk a lot about serums.
And today we have a real treat for you.
If you are a consumer of celebrity gossip and or commentary on celebrity gossip,
you 're probably familiar with the name Allie Jones because she writes the amazing Substack newsletter, Gossip Time.
And also contributes to a ton of places.
And she is just so delightful.
I loved our conversation with her.
Allie is really funny.
I'm a subscriber to Gossip Time.
I subscribe to two celebrity sub stacks, Gossip Time and Hunter Harris.
And they often collab or their topics are in conversation.
And I just.
I love their approaches.
They both have very distinctive voices as writers.
They have distinctive perspectives on things.
Allie, if y'all do n't already follow her,
has this section in her newsletter every time called Stuff by Hilary Duff because she 's obsessed with Hilary Duff.
And it's so funny.