Can we build a world that works for all?

我们能构建一个让所有人受益的世界吗?

Science Quickly

2026-05-27

18 分钟
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In this episode of Science Quickly, host Rachel Feltman interviews leading thinker Jeremy Lent about his latest book Ecocivilization: Making a World That Works for All, which challenges the idea that humans are inherently selfish. Lent emphasizes our natural tendency toward cooperation and interconnectedness and proposes a shift to a new “operating system” based on these values. The conversation highlights real-world examples and practical steps individuals can take to help build a more equitable, regenerative future. Recommended Reading: Ecocivilization: Making a World That Works for All. Jeremy Lent. Melville House, 2026 E-mail us at sciencequickly@sciam.com if you have any questions, comments or ideas for stories we should cover! Discover something new everyday: subscribe to Scientific American and sign up for Today in Science, our daily newsletter. Science Quickly is produced by Rachel Feltman, Fonda Mwangi, Sushmita Pathak and Jeff DelViscio. This episode was edited by Alex Sugiura, with fact-checking by Shayna Posses and Aaron Shattuck. Our theme music was composed by Dominic Smith. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  • Are humans inherently selfish?

  • We've covered research on this very show that says otherwise.

  • But looking at the realities of wealth disparity, wars fought over fuel, and casual overconsumption as the planet burns,

  • it can certainly feel like our species must be somehow rotten at its core.

  • Our guest today has a different perspective.

  • Author Jeremy Lent is the founder of the Deep Transformation Network,

  • a global online community geared toward creating a better future for humanity.

  • He argues that while our society's current systems are exploitative and destructive,

  • the natural state of humanity and of the planet we live on is one of mutuality and shared abundance.

  • His latest book, Ecocivilization, is a deeply researched manifesto on the inevitable failure of our entrenched systems,

  • as well as a roadmap for a radically sustainable vision for humanity's next chapter.