The Democrats Could Still Screw This Up

民主党人仍有可能搞砸这一切。

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

2026-03-12

1 小时 6 分钟
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Can the Democrats finally seize on President Trump’s increasing unpopularity and end their slump? It seems to me as though 2026 is providing them ample opportunity. But I wanted to know what they actually stand for. Have they learned anything about immigration? Are they ready for the new politics of artificial intelligence? To find out, I asked someone I consider a true man of the left, Chris Hayes, the host of “All In With Chris Hayes” on MS NOW. 00:00 Intro 02:09 - Democrats: The state of play in 2026 06:46 - How Israel fractures the Democrats 09:19 - Immigration reform beyond the “old consensus” 19:46 - Models for Democratic leadership: Mark Kelly, Ruben Gallego, Rafael Warnock, and Jon Ossoff 27:22 - 2028: Kamala Harris, Gavin Newsom and “the Hillary Clinton problem”  30:41 - The politics of attention 36:19 - The challenges of achieving a Leftist society 45:37 - A Leftist case against A.I. 1:04:23 - Will A.I. define the 2028 election? (A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.) Thoughts? Email us at interestingtimes@nytimes.com. Please subscribe to our YouTube Channel, Interesting Times With Ross Douthat. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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  • The 2024 election didn't just return Donald Trump to the White House.

  • It also left the Democrats confronting a potentially era-defining defeat.

  • But here we are in 2026. President Trump is deeply unpopular, and Democrats are leading in the midterm polls.

  • Still, I want to know, what are they actually for?

  • Have they learned anything from their 2024 defeat on immigration especially?

  • Do they have leaders who are capable of speaking to swing voters

  • while also wooing a party base that's girded for an existential battle?

  • And are they ready for the dawning age and the new politics of artificial intelligence?

  • And who better to answer all of these questions than my guest this week, Chris Hayes,

  • who spends every weeknight talking to some of the most liberal viewers in America,