Sen. Thom Tillis's Extended Interview

参议员汤姆·蒂利斯的长篇访谈

60 Minutes

2026-10-08

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Retiring North Carolina Republican Senator Thom Tillis speaks exclusively with 60 MINUTES about the political advisors he believes are responsible for undermining President Trump’s second term. In his only interview ahead of the release of his new book, "How to Lose Friends and Antagonize Presidents,” Tillis joins correspondent Ross Douthat for a candid conversation about the ups and downs of his relationship with President Trump, the state of the Senate and the Republican Party, and how his upbringing shaped his political outlook. Graham Messick is the producer. Editor's note: This podcast is an extended version of the interview that was broadcast on 60 Minutes on Sunday, October 4th, 2026.
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  • This fealty to a would-be king or a powerful president

  • is not a good look in an election cycle where people are frustrated.

  • Why anybody hesitates to say, look, I love the president.

  • I voted for the big, beautiful bill.

  • I'm okay with the CMS cuts, but we got to get this thing in Iran right.

  • What's wrong with that?

  • If they're thinking it, why don't they say it?

  • And the ones who do, I think will be rewarded at the ballot box.

  • And the ones who don't will probably have a lot more time with their family next year.

  • This week on 60 Minutes, we interviewed Senator Tom Tillis.

  • The two-term Republican from North Carolina has been walking

  • a political tightrope throughout the second Trump administration.

  • He's voted with his party consistently and backed many of President Donald Trump's policy priorities.

  • But he's also been a caustic critic of key Trump appointees and what he calls the president's WTF moments,

  • all while insisting he's just trying to help the White House succeed.

  • Now, on his way out the door, he's written a book called How to Lose Friends and Antagonize Presidents,

  • in which he blames what he calls sycophants in the president's inner circle for the administration's struggles.

  • In a series of conversations on Capitol Hill, we spoke with Senator Tillis

  • about his relationship with President Trump, his fear of an increasingly imperial presidency,

  • and what awaits the Republican Party in the midterms and 2028. This is an extended version of those interviews.