Why The Tech World Is Spooked About AI

科技界为何对人工智能感到恐惧

What A Day

2026-09-05

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On today's show, our guest host, Todd Zwillich, talks with Nate Soares, co-author of If Anyone Builds It, Everyone Dies, and the President of the Machine Intelligence Research Institute, about recent AI hacks, the great AI debate, and Vice President JD Vance's comments about the end times on the Bryce Crawford Podcast. Show Notes: Check out Nate's book - If Anyone Builds It, Everyone Dies Call Congress – 202-224-3121 Subscribe to the What A Day Newsletter – https://tinyurl.com/y4y2e9jy What A Day – YouTube – https://www.youtube.com/@whatadaypodcast Follow us on Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/crookedmedia/ For a transcript of this episode, please email transcripts@crooked.com
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  • If Donald Trump actually understood that the AI has a real chance of killing everybody on the planet,

  • no matter whether it is made in the US or in China,

  • the answer would not be race and make sure we get there first.

  • The answer would be make sure that neither of us do this crazy, reckless thing.

  • It's Friday, September 4th.

  • I'm Todd Zwilich, in for Jane Koston, and this is What a Day.

  • Today, I'm speaking with Nate Soares.

  • He's the co-author of If Anyone Builds It, Everyone Dies,

  • and also the president of the Machine Intelligence Research Institute.

  • And we're talking about recent AI hacks, the great AI debate,

  • and whether, according to our vice president, humanity is, in fact, worth saving.

  • Nate, great to talk to you again, man.

  • Happy to be here.

  • Yeah, I mean, I'm happy you're here too, except every time you and I talk,

  • it seems like your book is getting a little more on the nose and not in a good way.

  • I mean, it's filled with dire warnings about what could happen if super intelligent AI grows out of control.

  • And it seems like I mean, it seems like every week this summer we get closer and closer to the awful reality.

  • We're going to talk about hugging face.

  • We're going to talk about Bill Gates and even J.D.

  • Vance.