TIP855: Shopify (SHOP): The Big Winner of Agentic Commerce? w/ Shawn O'Malley & Daniel Mahncke

TIP855:Shopify(SHOP)——代理商业的大赢家?肖恩·奥马利与丹尼尔·马恩克访谈

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2026-10-25

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Shawn O’Malley and Daniel Mahncke revisit Shopify (NASDAQ: SHOP) fifteen months after Shawn pitched it, called it one of the best businesses they’d ever studied, and recommended passing on the stock at around $80 per share. Since then, the stock has nearly doubled, gross merchandise volume has grown more than 30% for five straight quarters, 2025 revenue rose 30% to over $11.5 billion, and Shopify paid off its convertible notes and launched its first-ever buyback program, now totaling $5 billion. Shawn and Daniel grade their original analysis: what they got right about the business, what they got wrong about the numbers, and whether the decision-making process itself was flawed. They dig into how Shopify became central to agentic commerce through its Catalog of over a billion products, the Universal Commerce Protocol it co-developed with Google, and agentic storefronts inside ChatGPT, Gemini, and Copilot. They also cover Amazon blocking Meta’s Muse agent while Shopify partnered with it, the bear case that merchants will vibe-code their own stores, Sidekick’s rapid adoption, and whether a great business is worth owning at 112 times operating profits. IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN: (00:00:00) Intro (00:08:42) What Shawn and Daniel got right and wrong when they passed on Shopify in 2025 (00:09:02) How to grade an investment decision without falling for hindsight bias (00:16:07) How Shopify sustained more than 30% GMV growth for five straight quarters (00:17:12) Why Shopify merchants captured nearly half of all new U.S. e-commerce dollars (00:23:28) Valuation discussion of Shopify (00:32:30) What agentic commerce is and how Shopify’s Catalog and Universal Commerce Protocol power it (00:49:22) Why AI shopping may favor independent brands over Amazon and Etsy (01:03:14) Why merchants are unlikely to vibe-code their way off Shopify (01:08:53) What Ben Graham’s P/E matrix says Shopify is worth today (01:11:56) Whether Shawn and Daniel will add Shopify to the Intrinsic Value Portfolio Disclaimer: Slight discrepancies in the timestamps may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES Apply for The Intrinsic Value Mastermind Community where investors learn, share ideas, network, and join calls with experts. Apply for The Mastermind Inner Circle to connect with the most successful investors, executives, and business leaders from our audience. Track ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Intrinsic Value Portfolio⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Portfolio Review ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Submit Tool⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Our original podcast deep-dive on Shopify. Shopify’s Q2 2026 results. Shopify’s Spring ’26 Edition: Selling everything, everywhere, all at once. Tobi Lütke on Uncapped with Jack Altman (#50). Ben Thompson’s Stratechery interview with Michael Morton on e-commerce in the age of AI. Shopify’s Tinker announcement and “Commerce at the speed of culture” data study. Shopify at the Goldman Sachs Communacopia + Technology Conference (September 2026). The Graham-Dodd P/E Matrix. Our updated Shopify valuation model. 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  • You're listening to TIP.

  • Welcome back to The Investor's Podcast, where each week, Sean, Kyle, and I explore, analyze,

  • and also value publicly traded companies and debate whether they deserve a spot in our shared portfolio.

  • And today's episode is 8.55,

  • and we're actually revisiting a company that we always had in the back of our minds, and that company is Shopify.

  • So for context, Sean, you pitched Shopify in May of last year,

  • and I think it's safe to say that you very much like the company, and in fact, both of us did.

  • Basically the rebels fighting Amazon's empire.

  • That's how you put it back then.

  • And we very much liked that idea, but the stock was quite expensive.

  • And in your model, you came up with an intrinsic value share target

  • of about $53 against the market price back then of about $80 per share.

  • And ironically, as the guy pitching it, you recommended

  • that we hold off unless the stock would fell south of $60 per share.

  • Gosh, don't remind me, Daniel.

  • It's a bit painful.

  • Well, I think it's safe to say that it never did touch $60 per share.

  • And as we would call this one, Shopify actually trades north of $160 per share with a massive $200 billion market cap.

  • And I think it's safe to say that we cover so many companies and mostly good ones.

  • There's certainly a selection bias in the companies that we choose that this happens from time to time.