Hello and welcome to Forever 35, a podcast about the things we do to take care of ourselves.
I'm Dori Shafrir.
And I'm Elise Hu, and we're just two friends who like to talk a lot about serums.
And today we have Eleanor Cleghorn on the show.
A historian.
A British historian.
Yes.
And we go like thousands of years back with her.
We'll have to like speed it along so that we have enough time for the show
because we can't talk about thousands of years of history.
It's true.
I mean, you know, as someone who went to grad school for history,
I do appreciate a long, a long historical view.
But you won't be getting that today.
Well, yes, you will get like the wide lens.
Well, like, I mean, I just mean in her book.
Yes, yes.
She goes way back, which is like.
Very interesting, I thought.
And also, we talked about this a little bit in the interview,