All the President’s Planes

总统的所有飞机

The Daily

2026-08-12

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When President Trump left Turkey, the White House said publicly that he was boarding the old Air Force One — but that plane was a decoy. In a highly elaborate escape plan prompted by a credible Iranian threat, Trump was secretly moved through a catering cart to a military aircraft, leaving passengers unknowingly flying on the decoy plane. Today, Maggie Haberman, a White House correspondent for The New York Times, details the operation’s risks and what it reveals about how seriously the administration views the danger to the president. Guest: Maggie Haberman, a White House correspondent for The New York Times. Background reading:  President Trump hid in an airport catering container and was transported to a military jet for a secret flight out of country. Photo: Doug Mills/The New York Times For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday.  Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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  • From the New York Times, I'm Rachel Abrams, and this is The Daily.

  • Last month, President Trump made a dramatic exit from a visit to Turkey.

  • He switched his plane at the last minute to an older Air Force One,

  • which caused confusion and prompted concerns about the safety of the president's planes.

  • But this week, we learned that was all a ruse.

  • And so today I'm joined by Maggie Haberman, who tells us the story of a third plane,

  • how Trump got on it, and why the administration worked so hard to keep it all a secret.

  • It's Wednesday, August 12th.

  • Maggie Haberman, welcome back to The Daily.

  • Rachel, thanks for having me.

  • So Maggie, our colleague Tyler Pager was on the show a few weeks ago,

  • and he told us the story that is probably by now a little familiar,

  • which is that Trump switched off of a jet he had gotten from the Qataris,

  • and he switched to the old Air Force One plane because of a credible threat.

  • And what this did was it prompted a lot of concerns that the Qatari

  • jet was not properly outfitted with whatever safety measures it would need in order to carry the president safely.

  • Now, the administration, as we know, was not happy that we reported that.

  • Some of our colleagues got subpoenaed.

  • And all of this made for a very dramatic story.

  • And now we have come to learn that we didn't actually know the half of it.