Amazon Was Supposed to Kill the Bookstore. James Daunt Had Other Plans | Better in Person

亚马逊本应终结书店的命运。詹姆斯·道恩另有打算 | 人际交往更胜一筹

Freakonomics Radio

2026-09-09

32 分钟
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He started with one small shop in London. He has since resuscitated both Barnes & Noble and Waterstones. He tells Stephen Dubner exactly how he does it.  If you'd like to see the video version of Better in Person, you can watch it on YouTube or Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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  • This episode of Better in Person is presented by ChatGPT.

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  • Hey there, it's Stephen Dubner, and this is a bonus episode of our new TV talk show, Better in Person.

  • If you want to watch the video, which is a whole different experience, it is on the Freakonomics YouTube channel,

  • or look for Better in Person on Apple Podcasts.

  • My guest today is James Daunt, a name you may not know,

  • but after listening to this episode, I think you will understand why I was so excited to speak with him.

  • As always, thanks for listening.

  • I think 30 years ago, all the bookstore chains were ruling the world.

  • And the idea that I would then be running them all is, yes, fanciful.

  • And indeed, I may wake up at some point and find it was all some sort of weird mushroom

  • that I ate last night.

  • Did you have a mushroom last night?

  • I did not.

  • Well, not that sort anyway.

  • This is Better in Person with Stephen Dubner and James Daunt.

  • James Daunt is not a household name, at least in most households, but he always has been in mine.

  • Years ago, he opened a small independent bookshop in London, Daunt Books,

  • which many people consider their very favorite bookstore.