#189- Raffe, BT & Dino: To Live and Die in Shanghai pt.2

189- 拉斐、BT与迪诺:在上海生死存亡篇第二部

THD美籍华人英语访谈秀

2026-06-16

1 小时 24 分钟
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Raffe is the owner of Cantina Agave,  the very first Mexican restaurant in Shanghai.  Today he is joined by some old friends, BT and Dino on the podcast, as we celebrate Cantina’s 18th anniversary and the launch of his new restaurant, Vice.  We talk about why he’s stayed in Shanghai and discuss the constant pressure to keep up with this unique city, the challenges of running F&B amid unpredictable rules and high turnover, and how the city shifted from “wild east” days to stricter, safer, more equal enforcement.  We compare Shanghai’s convenience and safety with rising costs, crime, and lenient enforcement in the U.S., especially LA, and talk about perspective, media-driven fear, and cultural adaptation. We talk about a renaissance in Shanghai’s dining scene, social media’s impact, and Cantina’s clientele flipping to 70% local Chinese. We also end the episode with a blindfolded taco taste test that doesn’t go as planned. ____________________ 下载节目文字版: Episode Transcripts ____________________ If you enjoy this show don't forget to leave a rating and subscribe! 小红书: THD The Honest Drink Follow Us On IG: @thehonestdrink_ Join Us On WeChat: THD_Official Email: thehonestdrink@gmail.com Find us on: Spotify, Apple Podcasts, 小宇宙, 网易云音乐, 喜马拉雅, 小红书, YouTube, Bilibili or anywhere you get your podcasts.
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  • So another cold open.

  • We haven't done a cold open in a very long time.

  • Kind of fun, actually.

  • I mean, our old fans would remember when I used to do the, what's up everybody?

  • Welcome to this.

  • God, that feels like a whole lifetime ago, right?

  • Yeah.

  • I cringe at myself even thinking I used to think that was a good opening.

  • Yeah, not the only person that cringes when you hear it.

  • Yeah, yeah.

  • But there's a reason why we're doing this today.

  • And we just want to give you our listeners a little bit of context

  • in terms of setting up this episode you're about to listen to.

  • So the other day, we actually did a vlog, a video vlog around town.

  • A short one, not too long.

  • Yeah, a very short one.

  • And you can check it out on our YouTube channel.

  • We did a vlog with Rafi and the crew at Cantina Agave, which is a Mexican restaurant in Shanghai.

  • This episode is us.

  • Catching up with Rafi from Cantina Gave.